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In this episode of the Real Estate Investing Podcast, host Ron Apke delves into the importance of understanding your tax bracket and its implications, especially for entrepreneurs and land flippers.

Unlike W2 employees who see taxes deducted automatically, entrepreneurs need to plan for their tax obligations.

He also highlights the powerful strategy of utilizing bonus depreciation for real estate investments.

Buying properties like mobile home parks allows investors to write off a large portion of the purchase price in the first year, significantly reducing taxable income.

Watch or listen to the full episode below to get actionable advice and proven tax strategies to help you navigate the lucrative land investing landscape! ⬇️

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Ron: Being responsible with understanding your tax bracket, understanding all this, because if you make 1, 000 in a W 2 job, you’re only going to get 600. You’re taking the taxes out right there. With land flipping in particular, the numbers get so big. So you make 50, 000 on a deal, you’re going to owe a lot of taxes.

Making sure you’re not just recycling your money into more deals. It’s that simple. Sounds great. Like, okay, I’m not giving any of profit to anyone else. I’m just putting in it. And it can put you in a really poor position. When we’re buying mobile home parks, we get what’s called bonus depreciation. So let’s say we buy a million dollar mobile home park.

We only put 200, 000 down for that million dollar property. And we can write off half a million dollars. If you’re not making that much money, don’t worry about reducing your taxes. Like your focus should be on how do I get my business to making 500, 000 a year, a million dollars a year.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the real estate investing podcast. I’m your host, Ron Apke by myself for this episode. And today we are talking about taxes and land flipping. And before I start talking about any of this, I am not a CPA. I’m not a certified tax planner. I’m not a financial advisor, certified financial advisor.

I am a land flipper. I teach people how to land flip. I Flip land deals. I’ve done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of land deals and paid taxes on this stuff for yield years. So the perspective I’m going to give you today is one from my countless number of hours. I’ve talked to my accountant about this.

Uh, number two is just my experience. Like when I get my tax bill, everything like that, talking about my experience. With this again, not a CPA by any means, but let’s get to it. The first thing I wanted to touch on is not even land flipping. It’s being an entrepreneur. When you are an entrepreneur, you are going to have the responsibility to obviously file taxes and then pay taxes at the end of each year.

And one of the things is being responsible with understanding your tax bracket, understanding all this, because whatever it is, you go sell something and make 1, 000 on it. You’re going to see 1, 000 right away, where if you make 1, 000 in a W 2 job, you’re only going to get 600 or whatever. They’re taking the taxes out right there.

So that is the first thing is like, you need to plan for this stuff. It’s extremely important to plan for it because To do things, doing things legally, like you will be taxed on any of the money that you make. So make sure that you have that. And with the land flip in particular, the numbers get so big.

So you make 50, 000 on a deal. You’re going to owe a lot of taxes. But again, when I’m talking about this, I’m talking about being an entrepreneur in general. There’s just another level of responsibility that you don’t have to worry about when you’re in a W 2 job because that W 2 you get your, um, You get your tax documents at the end of the year.

You file those. You can do it on turbo tax. It’s not that easy when you’re doing this yourself, when you’re doing land flipping, when you’re doing significant amount of deals, it’s not that easy where, like I said, with the job, it’s pretty simple doing your taxes. And a lot of times you have a refund when you’re an entrepreneur, you’re typically not going to get a refund.

So going from there, I want to talk about land flipping in particular. I talked a little bit about entrepreneurship, but land flipping and how. Is land flipping looked at from a tax perspective? So for this example, let’s just say you buy a property for a hundred thousand and sell it for $200,000. Or we’ll say, we’ll buy a property for a hundred thousand dollars and you go and sell this for $200,000.

It does not matter. With land flipping the main thing that. This, the, uh, the government looks at is your intent when you are buying something. So if your intent when buying something is to flip it, whether it’s a pair of shoes or a piece of land or realist, any other real estate, if your intent, when you buy it, that is not going to be, you’re not going to get capital gains on that.

If you hold it for more than a year, it’s not inventory. If you buy it at the end of the year, 100, 000 property at the end of the year, that is not a write off. That is just 100, 000 of inventory. That’s the key. It is the, the property. When you’re looking, when you’re flipping something is looked at as inventory.

And this is the same as if a, Shoe company bought a million dollars of shoes on December 23rd at the end of the year. That is not a write off for that year. That is inventory. And when they go and sell each product, the difference, what you’re getting taxed on is the profit on that product. So you buy a property, whether you buy it on January 1st, or you buy it on December it does not matter.

Um, then when you go to sell it, so you buy it on January 1st, you sell it on whatever, let’s say March 30th and you make a hundred thousand dollars. That’s going to be taxed for that year. The, you are taxed. On the year where you’re actually making the money when the profit is being realized. So if you buy something on December 20th and sell it on January 5th, 2024, you’re going to be taxed that a hundred thousand dollars of profit or whatever that profit was in that year that you sold the property.

That is a very, very key thing. And The way we, our business plans for taxes, like one of the key strategies that we use, because that is not a write off when we’re spending money, the thing about it is you can get put in such a big loop where you keep on putting your profits back into deals, you get this taxpayer, like, crap, I don’t have any money.

All my money is in land deals. None of that stuff’s a write off and you don’t have anything. One of the strategies we use, and we tell a lot of people what to do is getting deal funding. That way you do have some money for taxes for when things come up. That is a huge, huge part of it for sure. So you opposed to putting 100, 000 out for that deal, which isn’t a write off, like I’ve said a few times, you get 100, 000.

You get it funded that 100, 000 funded from a land investor, from us, from someone else. And then. You have that extra money in your bank as far as the money that you didn’t spend to buy the property. That is probably the number one strategy that I tell people to do is making sure you’re not just recycling your money into more deals.

It sounds great. Like it really does. It’s like, okay, I’m not giving any profit to anyone else. I’m just putting it in. You get tax bills, you have other things come up, you run out of marketing money, all these different things can happen and it can put you in a really. Poor position, especially if you’re not able to sell some of the properties.

So keep that in mind. Like when you’re buying a property, don’t think about like, okay, I’m going to make X dollars. If I sell it in 30 days, think about what if I can’t sell this in six months? What if you can’t sell that property in four months? Like, why, where is that going to be? If you put a hundred thousand dollars out.

And you can’t sell it for whatever number you can’t make any money on that in four or five months. Cause that is, it happens. Like there are situations where a property just takes a little longer to move. And maybe you didn’t realize it on the front end. Maybe it was a slower market than you realize.

Maybe you can’t sell it for as much as you thought. And you’re trying to squeeze out more money. And then it puts you in a really rough position for not only for taxes, but just moving your business forward with marketing money. With just not having as much money at, um, at your disposal can really slow your business and your growth down.

So deal funding is really, really important. The last thing I wanted to talk about is strategies to reduce tax liability that we use. This is from our perspective. I don’t want to. Tell you exactly how to do things. Talk to a CPA, but how we reduce our tax liability. One is we are deemed real estate professionals, which give us a lot of additional benefits with when, when we’re buying real property, when we’re buying mobile home parks, we’ve bought mobile home parks, we bought apartment buildings.

When we buy those things, we get what’s called bonus depreciation, where we can write off a lot of that property, Property in the first year. So let’s say we buy a million dollar mobile home park. We put 200, 000 down. A lot of times mobile home parks will depreciate 50 or 60%. And we can write that off all in the first year.

So we only put 200, 000 down for that million dollar property, and we can write off half a million dollars. It’s a very, very realistic number. So the number one thing to write off. Massive amounts of taxes is buying real property. And that’s what we do to not necessarily always zero out our profit, but to extremely reduce our tax benefit or our tax liability.

This can take your tax. Taxes down from owing 300 grand to having to not owing anything to owing five, 10, 000. Like it can happen relatively fast if you are using that strategy of buying real property and you want to look up, look up online, how can I be deemed a real estate professional? And that you need that to be able to, from my understanding, you need that.

To be able to use bonus depreciation to write off real properties. And it’s essentially accelerated depreciation where a normal property might depreciate over 27 years or something you can do all of that depreciation depreciation in the first year. And that’s why it is so powerful. You’re writing off 27 years of depreciation.

In the first year in the second year, and you can do this and it will roll over. So let’s say you have 500, 000 of write offs and you only have a couple hundred thousand or whatever it is. You only have a couple hundred thousand dollars of profit or income. Then you’re going to have that additional few hundred thousand dollars.

That will roll over to the next year. Um, the other thing we do is file as a S corp and that’s where we have to be on payroll and it reduces our tax liability. Some were able to have us on payroll. There’s other write offs that you have with that. Um, our accountant says, don’t do, don’t file as an S corp unless your business is making 50, 000, which we’re obviously well past that, but just have that in the back of your mind.

It’s. June right now, getting close to July. So it’s something that you want to have in your mind. And that’s why I did this episode today is I want you to think about this going in, or as we get to the second half, we’re about to be in quarter three of 2024. And if you’re killing it this year, think about how can I reduce my tax liability for 2024?

Cause you still have six months to do that. You have plenty of time to reduce your tax liability for 2024. Even if you have done nothing up to this. Point, but you’ve made three, four, 500, 000. The other thing I want to touch on is if you’re not making that much money, as far as like, if you’re making a hundred thousand, 150, 000 in land, don’t worry about your taxes.

I’m not saying don’t worry about like planning on paying them or how to pay them. I’m saying, don’t worry. About reducing your taxes. Like that’s not what your focus should be on. Your focus should be on how do I get my business to making $500,000 a year, a million dollars a year? That’s where your time and effort is gonna be in a better spot.

If you’re only making a hundred thousand, 150,000, even up to like $250,000. I kind of say like, don’t, don’t worry too much about reducing your tax liability at that point, but if you start making three, four, $500,000 in land. Your tax liability is going to be pretty high and you need to be thinking about how to reduce that.

Other than that, guys, let me know what your thoughts are. If you’re watching on YouTube in the comments below, appreciate you guys listening, if you’re listening on Spotify or Apple, leave us a review, share this with a friend, put it on your Instagram story. Other than that, thank you so much. We’ll see you next time.

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