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In this episode of The Real Estate Investing Podcast, Ron Apke is joined by a special guest Kevin K. who shares his story of transitioning from the housing market to flipping land full-time.

Kevin reveals how one pivotal deal completely changed his approach to real estate, highlighting the major differences between housing and land investing. They discuss the flexibility and simplicity that come with land flipping, such as fewer regulations and less competition, and reveal how that first deal opened the door to significantly higher profits.

The episode provides listeners with a behind-the-scenes look at how this guest identified the right opportunity, executed the deal, and used it as a springboard to grow their business.

This episode is both informative and inspiring, showing how a single land deal can transform the trajectory of a real estate career.

⬇️ Listen or watch the full episode below to hear Kevin's inspiring story and get insights into the strategies that make land investing a lucrative and scalable business!?

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Ron (00:19.089)
Hey everybody, welcome back to the real estate investing podcast. I’m your host Ron Apke joined today by one of our students, Kevin Kuhn. Kevin’s been in the program, been in the community for about 20 months. Kevin, welcome to the show.

Kevin (00:29.89)
Hey, what’s up? Glad to be here.

Ron (00:31.717)
Yeah, happy to have you here. I think it’s been a long time coming in and you’ve had a amazing journey. it seems like you’re one of the people, there’s a few people who bring deals every single week and you’re definitely one of them. Talk, let’s back up to February, 2023 when you joined. What was your mindset like? What was your life like? What kind of got you into this?

Kevin (00:42.083)
Yeah.

Kevin (00:52.3)
Yeah, so kind of what started was I was in working with an investor doing houses for five years and started off cold calling for him. Then kind of we started messaging people SMS. So I started handling that. Then we started basically hiring cold callers, hiring people for SMS. And I got to the point where I was basically running his business for him, negotiating, doing comps, doing pretty much everything, getting the deals under

get them contract signed and then I’d hand off to him he’d do the dispo side. So we actually did one we weren’t doing any land deals and we got one land deal that we made a hundred thousand dollars on and I was like light bulb went off I was like this is what I need to be doing I kept talking to him like we need to be doing land like not houses there’s like ten other people calling these people let’s get into land but he never really kind of got that so then at a point I was just like I’m gonna get involved I was watching

a bunch of podcasts found you guys and I was like these guys know what they’re talking about I watched a bunch of videos and that’s kind of what got me started into land so

Ron (02:02.266)
So it was like until that deal, like you hadn’t thought about land. Wow.

Kevin (02:05.166)
No, I’ve never even thought about land. I was like, we got paid like a hundred grand and I was like, that was so easy. Like we literally like, I don’t even know if I talked to that, like it was texting back and forth, got it locked up in like one day and then made a hundred grand. I was like, okay, we need to get into land. That’s like.

Ron (02:22.116)
What was the mindset going into that deal like? Did you guys feel comfortable? Did you feel comfortable copying it out?

Kevin (02:26.434)
He wasn’t even, so he like partnered up with someone for funding it. Like normally we were funding it all ourselves. He was worried about like we weren’t gonna make money and stuff. And I’m like, dude, we’re gonna make money on this. I know we will. And then we made off their grand and I was like, okay, lands where it’s at. Like that’s where I need to be doing stuff.

Ron (02:46.693)
Some of the most successful people, like, cause you have that proof of concept before you come in. Some people need proof of concept for land, for the business model in general. And like you had proof of concept, you had a motivated seller who was willing to sell far below market value. You saw that you can sell land. It’s not, cause those are the biggest hurdles. Like who’s going to sell me land and who am I going to sell it to? Like those are the biggest questions we have when people come in and you had proof of concept. Talk about that a little bit. Like when you started,

Kevin (03:05.944)
Yeah.

Ron (03:15.277)
In February, actually with your land business, that an easy part for you as far as like, because you understood the asset?

Kevin (03:24.62)
Yeah, yeah, I understood. Yeah that we could definitely I just knew the competition wasn’t what it was like at houses So I knew like just I’m very salesy I’m not like data driven those kind of things so like I knew like if I got people on the phone I could get deals and There’s definitely land out there and you guys had proved it already knowing you know, I mean you guys are getting plenty of deals So yeah, I just got into started doing mail that first year I really just did mail like I didn’t do texting. I wasn’t

really we had a baby too so that kind of locked up like three months of my my year just you know having a baby is kind of a blur those first couple of months with them but so I did a decent amount of deals but all were like smaller and then kind of how that framed into this next year me and Frank were talking back and forth and that’s one thing too I want to mention like networking with people like I’ve talked to like probably 40 or 50 people that are in the group so like if I have questions I

Ron (04:02.223)
Mm-hmm.

Kevin (04:24.352)
I just hit them up right away and they’ll help you out kind of back and forth with the group. That’s one thing. But me and Frank had been really close talking about deals, those kinds of things. So we’re like, why don’t we just business up or put our business together? So we started mailing out, did like 30,000 mailers. We got a few deals, but not as many as kind of what we expected. And then Frank kind of decided, Hey, I kind of want to focus on something else. So it was back to just me. And I was like, I need to go back to what we were doing at houses.

Ron (04:38.16)
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Kevin (04:54.208)
we’re cold calling, we’re texting, you know what mean? And I’m very like impatient too, so I want to like talk to people right away. So that texting that’s great, you what I mean? You shoot off those texts, you’re getting messages right away. And then just recently, the last month or two, I’ve put a cold calling team together as well. So

Ron (05:12.633)
Nice, so you’re kind of, so these last, when did that partnership dissolve?

Kevin (05:17.378)
So that dissolved after the first quarter. So really this last like, what are we like six months? That’s really when I’ve gotten traction kind of starting to like build everything out to the point where I want it to be. So.

Ron (05:29.393)
So what is, let’s just talk about your like monthly stuff right now. Not necessarily, I mean, how many deals you’re getting is great, but it’s hard to predict sometimes. But how many texts are you selling, sending? How much are you cold calling? And then also the direct mail if you’re still doing that.

Kevin (05:35.746)
Yeah.

Kevin (05:43.34)
Yeah, so I’m not no direct mail at all right now. It’s all texting and cold calling so we do I do 20,000 text messages a month so about a thousand a day or obviously from day to day it differs But then and then I’ve got three cold callers as well So they’re cold calling lists and also to like I know you guys always talk about like you got the data Like you you’ve skip traced it like you might as well text the people and I was thinking you might as well cold

the people like you’ve got this stuff it’s cheap to like get a cold caller to do it so that’s kind of where that all came from but yeah that’s kind of where I’m set up right now with the cold calling and the texting so

Ron (06:24.923)
To be honest, Kevin, like going into this interview, was like, Kevin’s like, he grinds himself. I didn’t know you had a team. That’s awesome. Like you have a team of people. Yeah.

Kevin (06:31.074)
Well, yeah, somewhat of a team. I’m still like, I’m doing all the texting myself. Like I definitely could, I like to like kind of be in control and I need to like kind of, I’m definitely getting to the point now where I’m getting too many deals and there’s too much going on that I’m, I’m going to hire someone to like kind of keep stuff under control. And like, I just got a CRM probably like a couple months ago, cause really with mail, I didn’t have that many leads. Like I could keep track of it myself. yeah.

Ron (06:59.419)
So, texting and cold calling, how are you combining those two as far as like what, or is it just like we have the data, just keep on and let’s get in touch with these people?

Kevin (07:07.33)
Yeah, yeah pretty much just get in touch with these people like texting them all and then I’ve got the cold callers calling I’ve got two that I’ve got my own dialer to that I watch every day and I got them through up work Which I kind of like where they’ve got you can actually like track what they’re doing, which is cool So like I know they’re calling and I can see what they’re doing every kind of moment of the day and then I did outsource one cold caller To like a customer service that’s through up work

as well but just kind of seeing who’s doing better and then I’ll decide how I kind of want to move forward from there so

Ron (07:44.111)
You said your deal volume is getting a little bit out of control. What does that deal volume look like on a month above the basis right now?

Kevin (07:48.99)
I’m like right now like last week I did two deals this week I did one deal and I’ve already got like properties in what Missouri Alabama Georgia Tennessee So like it’s just me like trying to run everything and it’s definitely getting out of control So I need to I’ve got a good friend that I had when When we were I was doing houses and he’s he’s working for a guy doing houses now So I figured out what his income is and just kind of like what you guys talk

Ron (08:02.522)
Yeah.

Kevin (08:18.656)
talked about like literally one deal pays for some of these employees. So that’s gonna be my next hire. So he can kinda, and he’s really good at calling people and negotiating so he can help me out with leads coming in. Cause I’ve got leads coming in from different places. But I did hire someone off of Upwork to just like basically with Zapier connect everything with the dialer, with the launch control, all those kind of things to the CRM. So.

Ron (08:38.618)
Mm-hmm.

Ron (08:43.601)
That’s really cool. sounds like you’re growing quite a bit. What are profit numbers on a month-to-month basis that you, I mean, obviously month-to-month it’s different. I think you brought us a big deal this week. Maybe I’m wrong.

Kevin (08:52.684)
Yeah, yeah, I’m starting to get like Mostly I was just doing smaller deals, which I was trying to like self-fund. That’s another thing I would mention to like people knew starting off like that first year. I was trying to self-fund everything myself So then like I ran out of marketing money and then I was like, shit So then you’ve really got to be smart up front like I would definitely get deal funders and now with the whole new deal funder platform like that’s awesome like I just kind of saw that firsthand sending it

a deal I think last week like I three or four funders call me that are like pitching me ideas and trying to like negotiate so like that’s awesome so the whole new deal funding is cool but yeah I was doing smaller deals now I’m getting like a lot bigger deals I think I have like a 60,000 profit deal that I’m actually trying to double close I’ve got a realtor going out there today to look at it it’s that title but he’s got someone really interested and then I’ve got a hundred thousand dollar deal that

I’ve been texting with this lady every single day like that’s another thing like rapport building is a huge thing when you’re first starting like I try not to like just be it like Transactional like ask about their family ask what they’re working like if someone likes you and someone like Feels good about being around you. They’re gonna work with you So that’s kind of what I try to do and that’s kind of I think why I’ve been so successful at

Ron (10:18.801)
Is that kind of your sales strategy, is that rapport building? Yeah, I talked to, I interviewed two other people yesterday and they said the exact same thing as far as rapport. I’m like, they’re not hard, like close this deal sales, like give them some time, build some relationship, they’ll come back to you. Who was it? It was Chad who had $150,000 deal.

Kevin (10:19.886)
Yeah, it’s the old strategy. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Kevin (10:33.624)
Yeah, you know, yeah.

Ron (10:40.667)
that like he said that was 100 % from our report. Like he was on the podcast that came out on YouTube last night. And he said it was just like he had a competing offer, but he ended up getting the deal. I don’t think you realize Kevin had like your trajectory, like you’re gonna 2025 is gonna be a big year for you. Like I don’t think you fully like, like you are things are clicking out here at the way you’re talking about things you understand how to make deals, get deals happening. What is 2025 look like if you, if we go a year from now or

14 months from now when it’s December of 2025, what is gonna make you happy in that moment in terms of a successful year?

Kevin (11:14.594)
Yeah, I would really like to do like half a million. Obviously more would be great, but I think with the land portal, the stuff that you guys have done with land portal, like it gives us advantage over any other land flipper. Like with the frontage, like the street frontage, the landlock properties, like out of state, like what I’m kind of focusing now, what I’ve noticed is a lot of my clients or sellers are like out of state. So like I’m just texting people, like I’ll do a bunch of counties and they’re all out of state.

people so like there’s a better chance of getting those so using the LAN portal that’s you know I mean I’ve had so many people be like I can get you data I can get you data I’m like I’ve got the LAN portal like it’s so much better than anything you can get me so that’s a big thing but yeah trying to really kind of build this team out and have a successful two thousand

Ron (12:06.532)
Are you trying to go after some project-based things or kind of when they come in, they come in?

Kevin (12:10.764)
Yeah, kind of when they come in, they come in, but yeah, I need to start doing more like road frontage, sub divides, those kinds of things. Double closing. That’s a huge thing that I’ve been doing. I’ve been getting a bunch of double closes just recently, a couple.

Ron (12:22.224)
you

Kevin (12:25.274)
And you know, mean, I, I, how I position it to people, basically I give them two options. say, Hey, do you need the money really quick? I can do that. Or option B, if you give me 90 days, I can do this. So I don’t really give them an option for working with someone else. It’s like, pick one of these two, you’re working with me type of thing.

Ron (12:44.836)
How many double closes have you done?

Kevin (12:46.414)
I’m just like so I haven’t really I well I just started really like I was like I need to start doing double closes So now I have like three or four double closes one in Alabama one in Tennessee This one in Georgia probably will end up being a double close I was gonna I’ve got a deal funder for it, but like I said I’m already having interest in buying it making 60,000 on that one. So

Ron (13:09.36)
Yeah, I was talking to Dylan yesterday and Dylan’s or Dylan text me. He’s like, yeah, I a double closed cut because I’m going to get him on the podcast later this month. He’s like, yeah, you have a deal closing by for 575 sell for 850. I’m like, Mike, and that’s double closed. No money out of his pocket. Like he’ll get a transactional funder for that. Give a couple.

Kevin (13:16.531)
huh.

Kevin (13:20.78)
That’s nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In transactional funding is so easy to get. So yeah.

Ron (13:28.497)
Yeah, I mean, yeah, people get their money back and it’s everyone’s happy. You get 2 % on the same day. I think they’re going to be happy as well. Let’s, let’s back up a little bit to some roadblocks, some hurdles, cause you’re obvious. You’ve come a long way from where you were 18, 20 months ago, obviously. And a lot has happened then. What kind of, well, there’s mental roadblocks, anything like that. What, what kind of did you go over over these last 18 months? A struggle point maybe.

Kevin (13:39.981)
Yeah.

Kevin (13:52.748)
Yeah, I think just being consistent. That’s one thing like waking up every day doing the exact same thing is one thing because in this job, you know, I mean, you don’t have a boss. You’re the boss. So like if someone isn’t telling you what to do, it’s easy just to be like, well, let me just take off a couple of days, those kinds of things. So being consistent, having a plan, what you’re going to do each day. So that’s definitely some roadblocks that I had. And then obviously when you’re doing mail, it can be kind of frustrating sometimes just because like,

Sometimes you’ll be like you have three or four people will call in and really be interested and then sometimes you won’t have anyone

and just the waiting process. But I would say 100 % if you have an eight to five or nine to five, do mail because like part time, you set up your answering service, they’re gonna pick up the phone calls and then you can call out to them whenever you get a chance to. So yeah, definitely some obstacles there but big thing just staying consistent I think is a big thing.

Ron (14:52.356)
Was quitting land ever anything that ever popped in your head?

Kevin (14:55.17)
Well, not like my wife says like, this really going to work? And she’s like, you’re putting out all this money each month. Like I’m telling her that I’m spending like $200 a day on texting, just giving them the data and skip tracing. She’s like, are you, are you sure about this? But now that like deals are really starting to come in, she’s like, okay, so I’m not going to work anymore. Yeah. Yeah. She’s like, so I’m going to be a stay home mom. And I’m like, gosh. Okay. So

Ron (15:13.809)
You need to work some more on this land business now. there’s definitely times when like, especially with mail, you said, like mail can be, because it is not a cheap thing. And then you think it’s a failure. And that’s why I love whether you’re doing cold calling or doing tech, you need, it’s a marketing business now with Kevin. I’m sure like over the 20 months, you’ve probably seen it.

transition a lot, like one touch point’s not enough. I’m not saying you can’t get deals from one piece of mail or one text, but one touch point just is not gonna be as efficient as sending two, three touch points, whatever it is, and it seems like that’s what your business, you’ve kind of built your business on, is like, let’s get in contact with these damn potential sellers, let’s figure it out how to get them on the phone, and then you’ll take it from there as far as, you just need motivated sellers on the phone, that’s all you need to find a way to do.

Kevin (15:58.882)
Yeah.

Kevin (16:02.316)
Yeah.

Yeah.

up and that’s one thing I jotted down like when I was doing houses me and my investor like we called it savage follow-up like you have to be like savage following up with people like you have to stay on I’m like this hundred thousand dollar deal I text with this lady every single day like every night she’s like you’re so sweet like I was having people like inviting me to birthday parties and stuff like like I’m like I’m three states away like I don’t even live there like but that’s like those are the people that are gonna call you back like six months later or whenever they’re ready

to sell they’re gonna reach out to you rather than someone else so yeah

Ron (16:38.98)
Yeah, that’s 100%. What are you, going back to 2025, what are you trying to like improve on? Like, whether it’s a skill set of yours or maybe part of your business, what are you trying to really improve on?

Kevin (16:49.25)
Really just like setting up getting the business to the point where like it can run without me because that’s my one worry is like, Hey, I’m sick for a week or something happens to me. Like if I’m out, the business stops. So I always, that’s why I kind of want to get that person. That’s kind of handling more of the deals. I’ll still obviously be comping stuff and working with you guys. Like it’s great because you know, I mean, you guys are reviewing deals two times a week or Anthony can do it. So being part of the group is great.

And I mean, you’re like connected with other land investors. I’m always on Discord, always reading what people are saying. Like that’s how you’re learning. Like no one knows everything. You’ve always got to be learning new things, those kinds of things. So.

Ron (17:31.825)
Yeah, I think some people take the community for granted or they’re not active in the community and you threw ups and downs. Like even when you were with Frank and everything like that, I still always saw you guys like in the community talking to people, giving opinions and it’s valuable too because there’s one day when you’ll probably be a funder or something like that where you’re on the other side of things, you’re building these relationships and helping people out. Like you’re not only helping people who are thinking about getting into this business, you’re

Kevin (17:34.764)
Yeah.

Ron (17:55.439)
Like you said with roadblocks, stuff like that, you’re helping people get over those hurdles as well. And that’s all some people need. Like it’s a little discord message that like, no, this deals, it’s fine. Like this is a normal thing. Like that’s a lot of people try to put in their frustrations or stuff like that. It’s normal to have frustrations. You’re trying to build a business. And I think that’s what you’re gonna, you’re gonna finally, like I think 2025, you’re gonna finally kind of see what that really payoff is. And I’m excited. You’re gonna blow past that 500K goal. I really think you can.

Kevin (18:04.034)
Yeah.

Kevin (18:12.418)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kevin (18:20.781)
Yeah.

Ron (18:25.585)
But what about someone looking to get into this business? What do they need to be thinking about? What do they need to be doing? Who is it for too? I think that’s an important thing.

Kevin (18:35.726)
Yeah, I think it’s someone that really wants to have like freedom like that’s the one thing like if I have a doctor’s appointment or I need to take my one year old somewhere I can do it and still have this business. You know, I mean I’ve got the cold callers calling. I don’t have to text for a day. So freedom and what I’ve kind of learned is I’ve got a younger brother that’s very very successful. He sold his first business for like millions of dollars. Now he’s got another business. So watching him kind of like being like you’re

You’re going to get rich working for someone else. like having your own business. Like if you really want to have unlimited potential or amount of money you want to make, like this is, this is it. Like a thousand bucks is all I paid. I’m not sure what it is to join the course now, but like you, you guys have the model, like, you know mean? I think it’s land in or those guys, like they literally just jumped in and like used his debit card for 45,000 or whatever it was. But you know, I mean, he jumped into it. Now he’s making crazy, crazy

crazy money so anyone can do it and obviously you can do it part time having an eight to five those kind of things and something other thing I was going to mention just like important for new people is like building those relationships with realtors like I have a realtor in Missouri that like I literally after I did one deal with him I was like tell me all the counties you work with and then I just flooded all the texts all the messages we got like three or four deals in Missouri like yeah I’ll just text him quick he’ll be like this is what’s

Like exactly he’s got the MLS. So those kind of things title companies my god title companies have saved me for so many deals like a lot of older people they think this is scam This is blah blah blah. I have a lady that like even if I don’t do title work with her I’ll send clients to call her and she’ll talk him into like working with me So those are those are really important things as well that I want to mention. So

Ron (20:29.659)
Yeah, referrals and that kind of, just like people being able to talk well about your business is very valuable. I think one of the podcasts, like I’ve done surveys of sellers. Sellers aren’t mad at us ever. Like they’re never, we do surveys and like, not try to find a bad one, but like I say it’s an anonymous, all this other stuff and we’re like, what’s actually going on? What are your minds? They’re just happy to get money fast. And like that’s what you, lot of new people struggle with. They think like they’re scamming people.

Kevin (20:34.062)
Yeah.

Kevin (20:40.407)
No, no.

Kevin (20:52.045)
Yeah.

Ron (20:57.997)
And Shelby, who I talked to yesterday, she kind of said the exact same thing, like her business changed when her mindset changed and she viewed what we’re doing as valuable to the sellers, because it really is. That’s such a good point. You talked a little bit about your freedom and I talked to three people yesterday, their freedom, our mission at Land Investing Online is provide freedom through land. What you said, doctor’s point, that kind of stuff, is it just like freedom of time that you’re looking for?

Kevin (21:20.76)
Well, yeah, like freedom of time have my own business make you I mean unlimited amount of money like I’m not locked into like where I used to be like my salary was $50,000 that’s the most I could make I mean like no matter what I did as hard as I worked now like if I work or harder I’m gonna make an extra hundred thousand dollars or 200,000 or whatever it is. So that’s big And then obviously I’ve got I’ve got two other brothers like we go on golf trips So like I can go on those golf trips and not worry about stuff like I’m the boss like I don’t have to like

I don’t have to worry about that investor. can kind do whatever I want. So it’s just, great. You know what mean? Like it doesn’t feel like work. Like I just kind of like love land now and I mean those kinds of things. So yeah.

Ron (22:03.291)
Everyone’s freedom is different for sure. And that’s the coolest thing is it’s we very intentionally like made that broad. It’s not like find your financial freedom. It’s find your freedom. Shelby’s yesterday, she’s like, I just want to be able to raise my daughter at home. Like that’s all she wanted. Like, and that made her so happy. And then she was like her smile on her face as far as like how happy she was yesterday just to be doing what she was doing. It’s not like she had a crazy 2024 financially but she was so happy to be able to raise her daughter.

Kevin (22:09.634)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Kevin (22:15.874)
Yeah, yeah. That’s cool.

Kevin (22:26.7)
Yeah, that’s cool.

Ron (22:29.251)
Anything else you can think of that’s just valuable for newer people valuable for you got to realize Frank or Kevin. I called you Frank. You got to realize Kevin like when you get out you have you’ve been we’ve only been doing this as far as education for two and a half years or so you’ve been with us for 20 months. So you’re obviously a 10 year student. You’ve seen a lot of ups and downs for sure from other people from yourself. Anything else you can kind of advice you can give for someone who’s in for six months and they’re struggling a little bit or anything like that.

Kevin (22:36.896)
I know you do.

Kevin (22:44.568)
that.

Kevin (22:48.738)
Yeah.

Kevin (22:59.116)
Yeah, I would just say like everyone is different. Obviously, like if you’re very salesy or you’re data driven, you’re scared to get on the phone, like you can hire someone to do the sales or do the data, those kinds of things. But there’s gonna be ups and downs with any business. Like you’re not gonna make money every month, but there’s gonna be months where you’re making tons of money. So don’t really let that get you down. Stay positive, those kinds of things. Yeah, I would just, or you know what mean, if you’re not in the group, like join the group.

look at that the discord channel of the people that aren’t in the group asking these questions I’m just like just pay the thousand dollars and get in like you would learn all these things and you can have a successful business so yeah

Ron (23:42.894)
What was you going back quite a bit? What were your mindset going in? I guess you had all that proof of concepts like you didn’t have to do much much research, but you probably were looking at different courses and stuff like.

Kevin (23:52.332)
Yeah, yeah, I talked to a couple different people that had their own courses, but I liked I just kind of liked your guys’s videos. I watched a bunch of videos. That’s another thing like when you’re first starting watch all the modules like I watched I probably watched 40 modules of like you guys comping deals those Wednesday night calls like it got to the point where like I knew how to do it too, but just watching those kind of things. But yeah, I had proof of concept since we had did that huge land deal. So

Ron (24:21.561)
And one thing that I like to mention is like a lot of people, one of the biggest things of successful people I see is they do what we teach and then they kind of put their own spin on it. And you went away from mail, which is great. it’s, what works for you is like you want high volume of phone calls. Some people are working a nine to five or maybe they’re working more than that. Maybe they’re working six hours a week. Like you probably are gonna need to do mail. You’re probably gonna need to have an answering service, stuff like that. But putting your own spin on the business, you have any…

Kevin (24:46.775)
Yeah.

Ron (24:49.283)
insight on that. Everyone I talked to is just a little bit different. Nephi who I talked to, I’ve been saying Nephi for like eight months and he told me yesterday like sorry but it’s Nephi. He just didn’t want to tell me. But Nephi who I talked to yesterday, he said he’s going after creative financing for some sellers. He’s offering creative financing for, not for the selling on his side, for actual sellers coming to him. He’s offering creative financing. Just little niches that you can go after. I think it’s so important and everyone’s doing that I think.

Kevin (25:16.94)
Yeah, yeah, there’s there’s so many different ways to go at this business is obviously if like you want to do subdivides double closes seller financing Yeah, I mean there’s just so many ways to find find the buyers or find the sellers or whatever you need to do and one thing too I was gonna mention that I do some really weird stuff like I’m on Facebook marketplace every day So I’ve gotten double closes off there. There’s double closes to be had Off there. I think

Ron (25:42.607)
Wow.

Kevin (25:46.864)
I’ve told this story before I bought a property off there for 5,000 did seller financing for 24 got 13 down Like so like I find deals off their Craigslist I’ve done a deal off of so like you kind of have to hustle obviously like I mean if you’re not getting deal or not having a lead that day There’s other places to find deals. There’s people that want to sell land. So Yeah, yeah

Ron (26:06.8)
I forgot that one. I remember you saying that now that you said it, but I forgot that that’s incredible. You got a $5,000, are you still getting paid for that?

Kevin (26:13.23)
Yeah, I’m still getting paid 500 bucks a month. I still have like 10 months on that one. So yeah, that that one’s been great. But yeah, I’m trying to do more seller financing. If I can kind of build up like three, four grand a month. mean, that’s a regular business or regular job. 50,000 hour or $50,000 job that’s just coming in. And then obviously I’ll have all my other deals, too. you know.

Ron (26:15.615)
my goodness, how many more months do I have?

Wow.

Ron (26:39.962)
That’s awesome, Kevin. I’m proud of where you’ve come. It’s amazing to see and I appreciate all the engagement you have within our community. You’re a huge voice within there. Thank you so much for coming on, guys. If you are watching on YouTube, hit the subscribe button below, Spotify or Apple, leave us a review. Share this with a friend, it helps so much. Kevin, thank you so much for coming on and we’ll talk to you soon.

Kevin (27:00.824)
Thanks so much.

Ron (27:02.682)
say once.

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